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What is the key advantage of Cigarette Charger (Micro USB type) of SR10?

Sena
posted this on November 18, 2011 00:46

http://www.senabluetooth.com/products/acc_SC-A0103.php

 

* Optional 12V bike-powered kit with on/off control by ignition switch

 

-          User may install SR10 with Cigarette Charger on Bike.

-          The SR10 is turned on automatically when you start the ignition switch on Bike.

-          The SR10 is turned off automatically when you turn off the ignition switch on Bike.

 

The power of SR10 is aligned with motorcycle power by using this charger.

 

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Lu Vencl

Does the SR10 remain water resistant with the 12V bike-powered kit attached?  What precautions if any should one make if using the kit.

November 19, 2011 18:22
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Dan Kim
Sena Technologies

@ Lu

 

Using SR10 specific audio cables will provide water resistance from wet weather conditions riders may be exposed to. However, power cable does not provide sufficient water protection. Please do not attempt to charge SR10 in a wet condition. SR10's phone cables(SC-A0105 and SC-A0106 are directional and correct side must be connected to SR10 for water protection. Connector with thicker grip must be connected to SR10.

November 23, 2011 10:19
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woodyking

More good stuff! I am disappointed that the battery can't be changed out in the SR10 units I just got, but it sounds like they would continue to work if connected to a charger full time after the battery life is over? Is this correct? It just bugs me that something is "throw away" due to battery. Glad most stuff isn't like that, hate to have to get a new car because the battery went bad...... kidding kinda.....

November 29, 2011 18:14
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Lu Vencl

I did not see where you had to "throw it away" once the battery life has been exhausted.. I would think that the same rule applies that you would have to send in the unit for battery replacement. It just is not field replaceable is my guess.

November 29, 2011 19:29
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woodyking

That is not stated in the manual or anywhere else. It has disposal instructions instead. I certainly hope it could be sent in for a new battery, maybe the factory rep will chime in and help us know. I checked the manual several times and looked online but ended up believing the worst. The battery section is page 16 if I remember right, and reading it certainly makes one think they are throw away. It should say they can be returned for new battery if that is the case. Please, SENA, say you can and do replace the batteries. And maybe a charge amount would be nice to know also. Thanks!

November 30, 2011 02:06
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Dan Kim
Sena Technologies

SR10 comes with 2-year limited warranty which includes battery. If battery fails during the warranty period, Sena will replace the faulty battery. If battery fails or gets exhausted after the warranty period, we may offer DIY battery replacement kit or do it for you at cost of the part/s.

November 30, 2011 12:34
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woodyking

That's wonderful. What is the cost of the DIY kit? What is the battery number? Thanks for info. We made our first ride with them yesterday, they are wonderful. I could not believe how static free they are. Behind a windshield and full face helments, there was NO sound at all except our voices. These are wonderful!!! I was having to use full volume, maybe I need to move the speakers even closer to my ears? They are not touching now, but within 1/2"(13mm). They were very nice at 60 mph, really impressed us. Thanks for your support Dan.

November 30, 2011 22:03
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Dan Kim
Sena Technologies

@Woddy

Glad to hear you are enjoying the unit. From our experience with many users, many have noticed huge difference in audio output level from minor speaker location adjustment. Battery replacement options outside the warranty period are being reviewed and exact method of implementation is not yet available.

December 01, 2011 10:35
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woodyking

Sorry guys, I was confusing the SR10 and the SMH10 units which is what I have. I am assuming the battery replacement for for the SMH10 is as you state above? I do certainly hope that there will be some solution for replacing the batteries, it puts a dark cloud over an otherwise great product. Question, can my units be powered by the charging 12V cigarette plug if the batteries are no good? That would be some consulation since batteries do not last forever. Most of my com gear for Goldwings and flying is easily over 10 years old, and still works fine. I expect things to last if I take care of them, and they do. Please keep us updated on the battery situation. I for one was considering getting another pair for my brother and his wife since they work so well, and we ride together alot. But hard to do not knowing if they are going to have replacement batteries or not. Two years is just the beginning of the life of the electronics, should not be the end.....  

December 01, 2011 17:58
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woodyking

Today I precisely placed the speakers directly at the ears, and shimmed with firm foam to the point just before contact with the ear. Actually went to contact then shaved off a thin layer of foam. Now they do not need to be wide open on the volume, they are plenty loud!!! I used hot melt glue to secure the firm foam and to reuse the velcro pads. It worked out wonderful. Gosh, these sound great now. I don't see a foam cover available for the speakers, anyone know of one that fits well??  One other thing I've  noticed, the mic wants to untwist itself, it is hard to keep it turned facing your mouth. I twist it and put the fin away from my mouth, but a little while later it needs it again. I over twisted it some and then brought it back to location, but it still wants to wind itself away from alignment. I don't like constantly twisting the boom, anyone find a fix? Or should maybe I just over twist it greatly? Don't want to damage the wires inside, but need to do something. The lower chin guard is too far away from lips to secure it there, and spacing it towards the mouth would make putting the helmet on/off difficult. I've only twisted it maybe 1/2 turn past perfect, maybe tomorrow I'll try 1 full turn to see if it will stay put....

December 02, 2011 14:47
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Dan Kim
Sena Technologies

@Woody

The boom arm is very robust. It is quite rigid while allowing flexibility to position the microphone without difficulty. If you continue to have trouble with the boom arm, please contact us via email for warranty service or submit warranty request through our support website.

http://www.senabluetooth.com/support/download_document.php

 

 

December 05, 2011 09:42
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Robert J Anderson

I find the boom arm doing the untwisting act, and it will not stay where I put it, especially in a lot of wind buffeting.  I might try a piece of 10 gau solid copper wire taped all along the conduit, but I doubt that will help the un-winding.  I find the base a lot of the problem, related to the drifting away.  It's too soft and flimsy.  I might even adapt the Edsets mice hardware to it, and use the Sena element.  ??

http://www.edsets.com/boom_microphone?category_id=71  

That would be the tab mount version, altho the RCA type could be made to work, with a "trick" RCA female mount.   This Edsets mic is dynamic, so won't work, or if it did,the Sena be  way over driven.

That said, the Sena is almost totally awesome,  Just a lousy boom.

February 27, 2012 18:13
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woodyking

I still fight the boom. Very little wind hitting it, but it still must be handled every 30 minutes or so. I might try your idea with the copper wire. Maybe a loop with the smooth doubled end going around the mic, and I'll have to look hard at the base to see how one might secure it there.

What is the status of  the battery replacement? Anyone heard any good news? If anyone ever cuts into their unit, please let the rest of us know what battery is inside and how it is potted or whatever. It will be just a matter of time until someones' battery goes dead after the warrenty period. Thanks for info,  Woody

February 27, 2012 22:39
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Robert J Anderson

My latest problem with boom, the rubber base is pulling off the adhesive disc.  I don't know what what to do with that problem.  The Base is cupped, so it's basically only grabbing the disc at the edges.  Not robust, at all.   Ed-set boom, here I come.  Another 50+ dollars.   

February 28, 2012 10:17
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Dan Kim
Sena Technologies

SMH10 boom arm is rigid enough to stay in place as long as it is not exposed to high wind. If rigidity of boom arm is loose, please contact us directly for warranty service.

If you feel that there is a specific area where SMH10 can use an improvement, please post your suggestion on our suggestion forum where it will be much more visible to rest of community.

February 28, 2012 18:16
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Robert J Anderson

 

"high wind"

....Thanks for the response Dan ... So, what we do, just ride around town?  Besides, the hot sun makes the adhesive turn loose.   Bad design, sorry.   And, the base for boom is much too soft and flimsy.  It's about the same quality of products from the dollar store.  But, the rest of the unit is top-notch.  Just a crumby boom design.  

...  I picked up my helmet this morning to see what I could do with it, and the boom was laying on floor, the adhesive disc having turned loose again.  This time, I cut the little ridge off around perimeter  of rubber base, and cleaned with alcohol.  Then, super glued it.  We'll see how that works.   Again, thanks

February 28, 2012 19:46
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woodyking

Is there any info on battery replacement yet? Thanks,  Woody

And, it's not wind that makes the mic boom untwist, mine is behind a full face and a fairing. It just is the nature of this boom material, it is spiral wound and wants to return like a spring.

February 28, 2012 23:20
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Robert J Anderson

Mine is out in the open, and cooler air is "harder", and it is constantly requiring adjustment.  The only time it stays put, is if I keep my pipe in my mouth, and rest it on the pipe stem.  To be more clear, I'm comparing the boom to the J&M, Edsets, Chatterbox, etc.   They are much more robust.  Approx 1/4 diameter boom, and much more solid base.   Thanks for hearing me out. 

February 29, 2012 07:39